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Mike Martin on 29/5/2003 04:28:15.
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Mike Martin
Strategic Planning
Pacific Ltd

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'Newbie' seeking help for setup  [29/5/2003 04:28:15]

Hi,

I have just been reading through the debate on the ‘prisoners dilemma’ and whether ‘newbies’ such as myself should get a leg up from the experts. I find it elicited some very thought provoking and sometimes cynical views on whether new people should be invited into forums such as these. As a ‘newbie’ I admit I have little idea about the call centre industry, which is why I am this site. I would love to contribute to some of the discussions but I’m sure you would not want 100 new posts trashing the purpose of the site just so people can get help. Without the help of teachers how would the world learn?

I work in the Pacific islands and I am seeking help from the industry leaders as to how I can set up a workable business so that my company can profit which in turn provides employment for members of the community (something which is desperately needed here).

I noted in another discussion that there is a project plan that people were sharing which covered all aspects of a centre build out. I would greatly appreciate having a copy of this emailed to me. I am attempting to determine if I can set up a call centre in the pacific islands. I know it is an uphill battle but I want to see if it is feasible. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Jim Livesey
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Pacific Islands  [29/5/2003 06:30:12]

Hi Mike,

I'm interested to know more on your plans. I spent 8 years in the South pacific during the 80's and have a good understanding of the culture, infrastructure etc.

Are you able to share any information, ie size of centre, countries of interest, if investment is required etc etc.

If I can offer any advice I will.

Regards Jim

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Shravan Kadvekar
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Process-Max Solutions Pvt Ltd

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'Newbie'  [29/5/2003 12:13:18]

Mike:
We are exploring areas such as Pacific Islands to offer our operations and consultancy in BPO domain. We are already discussing with a few prospects from other geographical locations like Africa. Let me know your contact details so that I can communicate with you further on the same.
Thanks.
-Shravan

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Mike Martin
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Pacific Ltd

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'Newbie' & Pacific Islands  [29/5/2003 22:23:13]

Jim and Shravan,

Thankyou for your offers for assistance. Please contact me at mgmartin001@yahoo.com and I will discuss further.

Regards,
Mike

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Jim Livesey
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Pacific  [30/5/2003 08:25:57]

Hi Mike,

Tried the email address but did not work, try mine, jimlivesey@taelus.com

Regards

Jim

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Graham Bailey
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EmphaTech Ltd

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'Newbie' seeking help for setup  [30/5/2003 12:37:07]

If you can get a broadband connection to the internet, we can offer advice and services to help you get it off the ground with as small an investment as possible. We provide voip technology and wordlwide destinations but we also have clients in UK who are looking to outsource projects to overseas (and lower cost)call centre operations. Love to help. Regards
Graham

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Shravan Kadvekar
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Process-Max Solutions Pvt Ltd

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Your email ID  [30/5/2003 16:16:01]

Mike, I too didn't get through your email ID.
-shravan

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Wiggle Puss
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K2 Solutions

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reply to Mr. Martin  [30/5/2003 18:56:28]

Welcome to an already overcrowded field, Mr. Martin ;).

You asked "I am seeking help from the industry leaders as to how I can set up a workable business so that my company can profit which in turn provides employment for members of the community (something which is desperately needed here)."

I lay NO claim to being an industry leader. But I'll offer my advice anyhow, for what it is worth.

1. Get clear on the order in which you need to take the steps involved. Do a critical path analysis: what is the **order** in which you need to take the steps you have to take?

Unfortunately, running a call center is not Field of Dreams. No vendors are going to come just because you've built it. Without *business* what you will have is an expensive investment in consulting time, telephone and IT infrastructure, cost-of-capital, etc., bleeding red ink down a financial hole. Even if you can get your local government to pay for some of this in the name of job-creation, your infant business is going to be a complete loss unless and until you have **contracts**.

2. To get contracts, you need contacts. If YOU were a vendor looking for a center, would you go with an unknown with no track record? No. Find talent with a strong track record and bring it on board. Vendors need to hear that the person running the operation has done it before. They like it even better if the person running it used to work for them, or someone they know. I would suggest that you identify TOP-grade call center managers in your target markets and offer them a lavishly paid, low-tax, entrepreneurial job starting up a call center in an island paradise.

3. Sorry to be cynical, but vendors do not care if your community desperately needs employment. What do they care about? (1) How fast you can turn a dollar for them into two dollars for them, (2) how likely you are to just lose that dollar. Those are the main (if not only) reasons they will pay you.

You will find it hard to compete on cost, because there are tons of areas with much deeper talent and infrastructural bases that compete on cost (India comes to mind). You have to have something unique to offer. Again, use your *location* to compete on a *talent* basis. Your unemployed local talent are worth little until they are trained. Attract the top people in the industry by offering them the same thing I suggested you offer the manager. These people will make you money, by making your vendor money. Hiring locally, you will go through a hundred people for every one you keep. You will not be creating the mass of jobs you are hoping for. But when your people spend locally, THAT will create those jobs.

(And to mollify you, Mark, if you're reading this post-- guess where the top talent I'm talking about would come from? When Mr. Martin employs consultants, where does that money go?)

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Wiggle Puss
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To Mr. Bailey--  [30/5/2003 18:57:33]

You mentioned in passing that you have clients in the UK looking to outsource projects. We are currently negotiating with UK-based operations re: outsourcing projects, and I was wondering if you might be interested in building a link to another operation. Let me know your clients' needs, we may be able to offer solutions.

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Mike Martin
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Pacific Ltd

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Pacific  [4/6/2003 04:35:36]

Jim/Shravan,

Please try mgmartin001@yahoo.com.au. That should work. Jim, I will try you directly.

Wiggle Puss,

Thank you for your honest advice. I appreciate I have an uphill battle from a cost perspective but I would like to at least entertain the idea before I squash it all together. As I said before I am testing the waters to see if it is indeed feasible. There may be deeper issues that prevent the business succeeding such as the "unemployed local talent" pool which may be worthless if they cannot be trained-up properly.

Regards,
Mike

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