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John Greening on 26/8/2003 18:03:59.
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John Greening
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Human Resource Outsourcing  [26/8/2003 18:03:59]

Hi there,
I've been assigned the task of understanding & setting up Human Resource Outsourcing for my organization. I'm pretty naive at the concept as I'm relatively new to this field. I'll be highly obliged if you could enlighten me about
how it works,
what can be outsourced,
what are the software's involved,
where can I find the software vendors, etc.

Any information on this would be of immense help... looking forward to a positive response from you guys...

Cheers!!
John

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Zoe Edmonds
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HR  [26/8/2003 21:07:33]

I know very little about this, but if you are in the UK, you may find www.ukhrd.com a useful forum.

I also think Call Centre Focus magazine may have had an article about this recently - I'll have a quick look for you when I'm back in the office.

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Zoe Edmonds
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Articles  [27/8/2003 09:10:33]

Okay - can't find anything in my back copies of CCF, but there are quite a few articles at www.peoplemanagement.co.uk - just type outsourcing into the search.

Hope this helps

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John Greening
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HR Outsourcing  [27/8/2003 09:57:12]

Below is some info which helps... any clues on what are the softwares, database management tools normally used by HR BPO companies, the best ones etc ..??

WHAT IS NOT BEING CONSIDERED FOR OUTSOURCING?
Policy and Management Responsibilities
*Selection of candidates and specialized recruitment
*Labor Relations
*Grievances
*Disciplinary Actions
*Collective Bargaining Agreements
*Appraisal of employee performance
*Efficiency, Productivity and Incentive Sharing Programs
*Career Pathing and Performance
*Mentoring Program
*Policy and Procedure Development and Maintenance
*Agency Unique, Program Specific, and/or Specialized Training
*Federal Computerized Criminal Information Background Checks and Investigations
*Processing fingerprints
*Human Resource Management – change management, employee relations and communications
*Administration of Workers’ Compensation Program
*Management of employee separations and reductions in force


WHAT IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR OUTSOURCING?
Transactional Processes and Functions
*Applicant Management – Assist supervisors with recruitment, screening, and selection processing
*Payroll Preparation
*Payroll Production/Payroll Accounting (*not currently in scope, but included in Invitation to Negotiate to obtain pricing for service)
*Collection and accurate reporting of Time/Attendance/Leave
*Administration of Benefits Enrollment, Flexible Spending Accounts, and eligibility for participation
*Retirement Benefits Enrollment
*Employee Information, Files, and Records maintenance
*Administration of Employee Assistance Program (EAP)
*New Employee Orientation Training and Hire Packets
*Generation of standardized reports and capability to query information
*Collection of data to assist in administration of EEO/Affirmative Action Plans
*Maintenance of organizational charts

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Shekhar Iyer
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HR Outsourcing  [27/8/2003 12:10:56]

Dear John,

HR Outsourcing has recently undergone many strategic changes. What ealier used to be outsourcing of a single function, is today boxed into variety of activities and outsourced under one sheltor. Perhaps the underlined gives you some impetus...
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In the past, many companies preferred to outsource one or two HR functions such as payroll or employee benefits administration. Now, in the interests of saving money and streamlining business so they can focus on what they do best, companies are more often bundling all HR processes under one business-process outsourcing (BPO) contract

While transactional HR functions are being outsourced, companies continue to manage the strategic and policy functions of their HR departments in-house.

To prepare for negotiating the best possible outsourcing contract, each company must decide the scope of its needs and understand how its HR department operates. That way, the company can better evaluate HR outsourcing contractors and their BPO offerings. He also said executives should talk to their peers in companies that have already outsourced HR operations.

Among the companies that have recently outsourced HR functions is AT&T Corp., which in May outsourced its human resources, payroll and other administrative services to Chicago-based Aon Corp. Financial terms of the seven-year agreement weren't disclosed, although AT&T said the move will save it millions of dollars.

"AT&T made the decision early on to move forward with this project," said Christine Morena, vice president of HR at AT&T. "Our directive was to save money on Day 1, so ... in choosing an [outsourcing] partner, we wanted one that was committed to the telecom industry and one that would make a sustained investment in technology."

Diana Robinson, executive vice president of Aon's HR outsourcing group, agreed, saying businesses should choose contractors with a desire to improve their IT systems.

Another entity that has outsourced HR functions is the state of Florida's Department of Management Services (DMS), which last August signed a seven-year, $280 million contract with Cincinnati-based Convergys Corp. The contract hands off some of the state's personnel work, including benefits and payroll, recruiting and training, to Convergys.

At the time, agency officials said the deal would save the state government $65 million to $90 million that otherwise would have been spent to replace the agency's outdated computer system. Overall, the DMS said, the state could save as much as $173 million over the full length of the contract.

Speakers at the conference said that with those kinds of agreements in mind, organizations should determine ahead of time how their business processes are delivered and assess those processes through certain filters: What are the costs of keeping HR functions in-house, and what are the legal, financial and other risks associated with third-party delivery of a service?

After a self-assessment, companies must next look at what different service providers have to offer.

Conference speakers also said companies should be sure to put in place service-level agreements that hold service providers to a very tight set of metrics and management teams to oversee the transition to an outsourced HR. It's especially important to communicate information about the change to employees, because they will often wind up working for the new service provider.

In case you need any further input, please feel free to contact me as we are ourselves running a 100 seater call center in New Delhi, INDIA and are well versed with Inbound/Outbound activities and we can undertake your HR Outsourcing job with extremely stringent measures.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Shekhar Iyer
91-11-27 15 63 01 /02
sc_shekhar@rediffmail.com

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John Greening
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HR Outsourcing  [28/8/2003 13:51:34]

Your inputs are indeed great and valuable... I'm looking at some more objective data.

My independant research has given me some additional info on this.
Now, I'm clear that administrative and transactional processes are the ones which can be outsourced. The whole idea is to reduce costs and focus on core competence.
However, getting into the HRO side of it. What is the functional approach of top companies like Accenture, ACS, Exult, EDS etc... which have been in this sector for long.
What is the IT platform they use. I know of top HRIS software like Peoplesoft, Genesys, Ceridian, ADP, SAP etc which offer complete HR solutions.
But how does the IT process work like, which is what I would like to understand.
The two aspects to these are Rule based Processing & Data Capture Processes...

In short, how is this cycle completed..
Does it work like this...
data from us will be transfered to the BPO provider.. who will then capture and maintain a database using Data Capture software...
Maintain it using Rule based processes...
Present it to us using a web interface

Regards,
John

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Vedula Srinivas
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HR outsourcing  [26/11/2003 08:17:04]

I saw this topic late and therefore not sure whether this will add any value to the person who had initiated the thread.

The processes talked about Shekar Iyer are basically transaction analysis, data management and data processing.

If we need to look at the recent developments in HR systems,large corporates/global organizations use the term human capital management. There are BPO service providers who source human resource data through research, identify their roles and responsibilities in the organizations they have worked for and track movement and progress of these human resources within the industry and later structure the human capital information that enables better decision making on talent acquisition.

These service providers also do comparative research within the same industry vertical and structure work desks of each organization based on the reasearch findings.

This helps senior management to hire the right decision makers and also improve profitability by re-engineering their work desks.

This process is not a non-core activity but a complex core process any HR function in a large organization carries out.

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Vic Shah
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HRO  [26/11/2003 23:15:49]

Mr. Greening,

If you would email me, I will send you a HRO collaterial with an overview of what can be outsourced. Some areas are relatively simply data entry of resumes, applicant screening, telephone or video interviewing. There are many other areas, but too long to write on this space. So if anyone else would like this, please email me.

Regards,

Vic

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pisoni m
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rule based process with hybrid updation  [27/11/2003 20:35:25]

John,
Just having a rule based process is not sufficient since the HR acitivities have become too varied and have been updating on a regular period, hence the rule based will be able to just identify the component but what abt updation on the fly? and then inturn effecting the payroll with finance dept. ? the individual dept heads? who authorise the raise or change in the rule of ops .
Thesea are few factors to be focussed else just identifying a component is just like watching a snag in the wing of an aircraft , not knowing the origing or desitnation of the chain reaction!.

We have been doing this services for one of the top HR Management companies of the world who are present in abt 45 countries with an rough estimate of 25Million payroll process! .
Imagine if we were to follow simple rules on such high volumes? boy! i would be sunk the same day .

There are few best practices to follow , if you can let us know more, i can surely present more info or help on this .I wish the site allows to cut n paste few sheets , you could have had better view of the entire process.

Cheers
Pisoni .

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